I've been using the same Ziener snowboarding gloves I bought in Germany for >16 years. They've held up marvelously, but it was time for an upgrade. THey were still warm and waterproof, but as you can see the material started to flake away on the thumbs. I thought I may be pushing my luck on how long they would last and since I was in Germany for the last time, the time was right. I was very please to see that they still make a very similar glove. They both have flexible wrist guards, but they're removable in the new model. They both have that easy to grab/use velcro strap over the wrist. Also, the new model's cords are a bit thicker and a more generous length. If you're looking for quality that will last you...look no further.